NO GPU NEEDED for these Gaming PC builds!

2021 7 آوریل
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Monthly builds featuring gaming PCs with no GPUs needed -- actually the GPU is integrated into the CPU. Hooray!
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▷ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:58 Quick Notes & Strawpoll
1:39 Build 1: $533 w/ Ryzen 3200G
6:51 Build 2: $733 w/ Ryzen 4650G
12:04 Build 3: $577 w/ Intel 11400
15:15 Build 4: $813 w/ Intel 11600K
► Build 1: $533 w/ Ryzen 3200G (includes iGPU)
Ryzen 3 3200G (4c/4t) bit.ly/2Q8EMUA
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II Motherboard - geni.us/rObJ
Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - geni.us/6MFS75
Crucial P1 500GB M.2 NVME SSD - geni.us/AKBgAa
SeaSonic S12III 650W 80+ Bronze PSU - geni.us/l9hBDs4
NZXT H510 Mid-tower Case - geni.us/WAIC
► Build 2: $733 w/ Ryzen 4650G (includes iGPU)
Ryzen 5 4650G (6c/12t) - www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?trafficChannel=main&d=y&CatId=0&SearchText=ryzen+4650g&ltype=wholesale&SortType=default&page=1
Be Quiet Pure Rock Slim 2 - www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/2248
MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (no 3200G support) - geni.us/MbeRWSS
Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - geni.us/6MFS75
Crucial P1 500GB M.2 NVME SSD - geni.us/AKBgAa
Cooler Master MasterWatt 750W 80+ Bronze PSU - geni.us/HrIbKJG
NZXT H510 Mid-tower Case - geni.us/WAIC
► Build 3: $577 w/ Intel 11400 (includes iGPU)
Intel i5 11400 (6c/12t) CPU - geni.us/ZCMNJJ
AsRock B560M Pro4/AC - bit.ly/31RdQLl
Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - geni.us/6MFS75
Crucial P1 500GB M.2 NVME SSD - geni.us/AKBgAa
SeaSonic S12III 650W 80+ Bronze PSU - geni.us/l9hBDs4
NZXT H510 Mid-tower Case - geni.us/WAIC
► Build 4: $813 w/ Intel 11600K (includes iGPU)
Intel i5 11600K (6c/12t) CPU - geni.us/UWYiCU5
Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B - geni.us/bLHSHg3
ASUS PRIME Z590-P - bit.ly/3wzH0gm
Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3600 Memory - geni.us/6MFS75
Crucial P1 500GB M.2 NVME SSD - geni.us/AKBgAa
Cooler Master MasterWatt 750W 80+ Bronze PSU - geni.us/HrIbKJG
NZXT H510 Mid-tower Case - geni.us/WAIC
► OTHER INTEL CPUs
Intel i5 11500 (6c/12t) CPU - geni.us/g2QCMC
Intel i5 10400 (6c/12t) CPU - geni.us/R6duld
► LINKS
Builds playlist - irworld.info/show/fy-lm-h-y/i3p0ZpWXZbmGzKI.html
Beginner’s Guide to Building a Gaming PC - irworld.info/show/fy-lm-h-y/jI2ng8Ogm6WD17o.html
Ryzen CPUs Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen
Anandtech - Z590 Motherboards - www.anandtech.com/show/16347/the-intel-z590-overview
Anandtech - B560 Motherboards - www.anandtech.com/show/16519/the-intel-b560-motherboard-overview-30-budget-models-for-rocket-lake
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  • Thanks for watching guys! 🙏 Reminder: these are upgrade-path builds designed to eventually handle a discrete GPU, hence the full-size ATX choices and the higher wattage PSUs. CORRECTION: The Ryzen 3 3200G is 4 core / 4 thread, it does not have SMT enabled (like the 3400G). Description is fixed but my slide in the video is still wrong.

    Paul's HardwarePaul's Hardwareپیش 13 روز
    • I was just about to say...also, Vega 11.

      Pavla LeinbergerPavla Leinbergerپیش 10 روز
    • @tnix88 I never said anything about iGPU's. Are you high ?

      MatlockizationMatlockizationپیش 11 روز
    • @Matlockization recommending an igpu for desktop gaming seems ridiculous

      tnix88tnix88پیش 11 روز
    • Wait for the 5600G to come out in a month. You get a 5600x and an on board Vega for 250-300. The 5800g is overkill.

      tnix88tnix88پیش 11 روز
    • Your the only guy recommending Intel when their power draw has more than doubled costing buyers more than if they went for AMD instead. I know Intel are paying you because you have a family.

      MatlockizationMatlockizationپیش 11 روز
  • I saw a msi x470 motherboard for 3 dollars less than the msi b450 tomahawk max. You should look for it.

    Arnold James ClementeArnold James Clementeپیش 3 روز
  • Thanks for this no GPU video!!! I have started looking at Intel CPUs to overcome the GPU availability problem. Since I am not planning to play games on this build graphics quality is not an issue for me. I am looking at the 10700K to get 8 cores and all core boost speed of 4.8Ghz ( currently $269.99 at Micro Center, recently Micro Center had it priced at $249.99 ) and Intel Clear Linux. I would to see a video focusing on builds to support multi threaded software develop and testing. Thanks for all you do :-))

    John SimpsonJohn Simpsonپیش 3 روز
  • Apparently there is no GPU shortages in Taiwan 🇹🇼. There is a video that a guy made circulating on the internet of him walking around in a Computer Store there in Taiwan filming all the shelves full of every kind of 3,000 series GPUs. Nvidia, Zotac, Mai, Strix etc,etc. But he couldn’t say why we have a shortage in the USA and they got too much. I’m beginning to think this whole shortage thing is a crock of shit and there is more to this than just miners. Gotta figure though that whoever is behind this is screwing others out of a lot of money for not flooding our market with these GPUs. But the fact that they can get this stuff in Asia is bullshit.

    PAPA SmurfPAPA Smurfپیش 3 روز
  • Thanks for making this video! The question is do i get the parts now or wait? Just hoping this will all be over soon and we will be able to get graphics cards again.

    PurpleXMoonPurpleXMoonپیش 4 روز
  • R5 3400g

    スーRinスーRinپیش 5 روز
  • Oc is 5% performance for double power consumption and heat , while lowering the life of the product and buying expensive mobo and cooler

    nerferupito samanerferupito samaپیش 5 روز
  • Great timing! My 15yo son and I are doing our first build. After a ton of research, we had almost exactly that 11600k build in our cart at newegg, but we've been nervous to pull the trigger. Felt good to see our decisions validated. Now we just more some more lawns and save up for a great GPU whenever they come back to reality!

    Ryan JohnsonRyan Johnsonپیش 7 روز
    • @Ryan Johnson Good, have fun ;)

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 5 روز
    • @Mr Anderson yeah we are. That's part of our project. It'll hopefully be a fun experiment.

      Ryan JohnsonRyan Johnsonپیش 5 روز
    • Are you going to overclock that chip? If not, just go 11400, more $ saved but with about the same performance gaming-wise.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 5 روز
  • What are your thoughts on a build with Ryzen 4750G - can it run Davinci Resolve?

    The Versatile DoctorThe Versatile Doctorپیش 7 روز
    • Ryzen is good with resolve.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 5 روز
  • This is kinda sad , tough times

    Robert Solano-SanchezRobert Solano-Sanchezپیش 8 روز
  • Was getting offered a pc for 800 but don’t know if it’s worth it or better to build myself doesn’t have GPU but I have one to put in could anyone lmk if this is worth it here are the specs 1 Asus Rog Strix B550 Gaming i Motherboard 1 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Processor 1 Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L CPU Cooler 32 GB G.Skill DDR-4 3600 CL16-19-19-39 Memory 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus Nvme SSD 1 EVGA PSU 220-GS-0650 Watt Gold 1 NZXT H210I Case

    QuestionAskerQuestionAskerپیش 8 روز
  • The Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G is the best value for money APU around. Very impressive lite gaming performance. I got it from AliExpress last year but I have since sworn off all Chinese parts and suppliers since. China is asshole. AliExpress had rampant fraud.

    Bailey CullenBailey Cullenپیش 8 روز
  • The ryzen 3 3200g is only 4c/4t...

    Tactical LiveTactical Liveپیش 8 روز
  • "you have to have video outs..... " no you really don't. If you are building your own low end computer then a Raspberry Pi Zero. the board is 5 USD, the HDMI adapter is 3.95 USD, the required SD Card is 12.95 USD and the power to the wall 2.5 Amps power adapter is 9.95 USD, micro usb to RJ-45 5.88 USD, the case being 7.99 USD and an ethernet cable to the switch the computer is also connected to so 9.99 for a 10foot CAT 7 cable. In total to do remoting into it it would cost 49.83 USD and provide you with the flexibility to access your computer where ever you can connect to the wired network. 4 USD less if you want wireless to do it where ever you have your wireless network but i have found the OSes on the pi work best on wired for remoting into another. The actual computer can be in another room entirely and not need a GPU to render the image only process the image for the games. Depending on how you set it up it can either add in a lot of lag or reduce the lag to almost none. Depends on the program you use. The GPU future upgrade will be to the main box not the card. So the cost difference from no GPU in your CPU to having a GPU in your CPU for a remote in device that also sorta can stand alone but really shouldn't be used as a stand alone device.

    yumri4yumri4پیش 8 روز
  • Bought a Ryzen 3 3200G for 178 dollars 😔 Also bought 2 Ryzen 5 3500 and 2 Ryzen 5 2600 Hope these CPUs will still be good for internet browsing when Zen 5nm starts rolling out end of 2021

    Yggdrasill4Yggdrasill4پیش 9 روز
  • 3200g isn't 8t, it's 4c 4t isn't it?

    LoudFlameKingLoudFlameKingپیش 9 روز
  • hi i got a bsod with this in it amdppm.sys have you ever run in to this ? if so any info would help TY!

    troy ptroy pپیش 10 روز
  • Great video! Love the realistic aspect of these builds considering the difficulty of finding even used GPU's right now.

    Jayson WilliamsJayson Williamsپیش 10 روز
  • FYI the MSI B450M Bazooka WiFi Max is $89. Better budget option if someone is wanting to save money.

    Boosted MK6Boosted MK6پیش 10 روز
  • Gtx770 vs igpu/apu?

    godchild69godchild69پیش 10 روز
  • Is it worth putting 3600 RAM in an Intel 11xxx build given that they're only rated for 3200 ?

    Richard RussellRichard Russellپیش 10 روز
    • If you like to tinker around your memory timings after building the PC, why not? Quite fun, like extra quests in RPG to get some special equipment. In this case, get extra bit of juice from your system.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 9 روز
  • lol have we really come to a state were we have to recommend an apu gaming pc lol. oyyyy this world is such a terrible place right now lol

    Eclipse The ProducerEclipse The Producerپیش 10 روز
  • @16:00 Scythe Cooler. Wasn't that just for LGA1151 boards, whilst i5-11xxx is LGA1200 MB's. Might be that Scythe can have mounting plates for LGA1200 included

    barpappanbarpappanپیش 11 روز
  • You called this "gaming PC" builds... pity you didn't try out the graphics of each on a couple of games to compare...

    Mark CriticMark Criticپیش 11 روز
  • Just built a 3200 no GPU computer. I'm very pleased with it. Screw the scalpers

    Sean MorrisSean Morrisپیش 11 روز
  • Just built a pc with a ryzen 4650g (europe retailers really coming through) & some absolutely natty ram and it's getting more csgo frames than my old 1060 pc. Bruh moment.

    PromethiumOxidePromethiumOxideپیش 11 روز
  • you misspelled "NO VIEWERS NEEDED for clickbait youtubers!"

    iφhiiφhiپیش 11 روز
  • I did get a 3400g build If you're a casual this is a pretty decent build till GPU normalize

    Al NukesAl Nukesپیش 11 روز
  • Something I found out if you use 32GB of RAM the Ryzen APUs automatically allocate 4GB to VRAM instead of 2GB with 16GB RAM.

    John BaconJohn Baconپیش 11 روز
  • the ryzen 3 3200g is a 4 core 4 thread processer LOL not a 4 core 8 thread, look at the data sheet

    FireWorksFireWorksپیش 11 روز
  • Just wait for next gen after 3000 series. All us going to be cryin all the way to next gen

    Mikel AyalaMikel Ayalaپیش 11 روز
  • I find that suggesting the H510 for a first build is a very bad piece of advice. For that price there are plenty of better cases, and with way more airflow (anything is more than 0 airflow).

    Andrei BriceagAndrei Briceagپیش 11 روز
  • so im building a 32gb 3700x system atm on a asus b450f, 2 1tb m.2 drives a a few 4tb satas but gpu is being an issue. would it be worth using the rx480 i have in my current system in the new one or should i just wait untill gpu market stablises and leave the performance as a supprise for then ?

    SomersetUpNorthSomersetUpNorthپیش 11 روز
  • Gigabytes B550 vision D. Will it run unix and linux as enterprise has moved towards these systems away from retail systems? what bias has it ? is it a dual Gigabyte set up with legacy bios support as usual ? On board ssd m.3 ?

    Dr Peter jonesDr Peter jonesپیش 11 روز
  • I am a 56 year old newbie to pc builds .so what your saying is in this type of build I don't need a gpu to play games .but still do a upgrade later on. when the gpu's get instock and the prices come down .

    FordyFordyپیش 11 روز
  • 4650g on Amazon 300$ mine came with a cooler as well when though it was listed as tray. Not that I'm using the cooler but still better to have it. And I didn't risk some random site.

    skunk jumperskunk jumperپیش 11 روز
  • Hey Paul love your vids, humor and edition style (kudos to the editor) ... I don't know if you will read this but for me (a video editor from Latin America) I have a video suggestion to make... I have a cousin in Orlando and have with him a entire build purchaded in since black Friday.. Washington for GPU to buy... I like to buy a 3000 series nvidia card... can you compare all 3060, 3070 and 3080... with and without ti... to know what to buy when I can with the budget that I will have when the opportunity comes to own a proper GPU.... hope you find this words and find the inspiration to help me and take this content to your awesome channel... love from Caracas....

    Carlos SarpiCarlos Sarpiپیش 11 روز
  • Now is the time to rediscover some "timeless classics" or learn to love indie games that will run well on a potato.

    Fake SummerFake Summerپیش 11 روز
  • Paul you should do some computer builds with CPU with Integrated graphics for gaming and let people see how it works with games and stuff so they can get an Idea on how to do that way so when the whole GPU shortage is over with or finally fix then they can make the switch with GPU.

    Brent HarmonBrent Harmonپیش 11 روز
    • @Paul's Hardware Cool looking forward to watching these builds

      Brent HarmonBrent Harmonپیش 11 روز
    • That's my plan!

      Paul's HardwarePaul's Hardwareپیش 11 روز
  • But we need to upgrade our PCs for next gen games. My 1060 is starting having problems with recently releases. What are we going to do ? Pray game industry will hold back heavy graphics in games ? I dont think so.

    HugoHugoپیش 11 روز
  • Which APU is significantly better than fx6300?

    Arvin G.Arvin G.پیش 11 روز
  • I know this year's been tough but I'm gonna be stoked when Awesome Hardware resumes

    toastynotestoastynotesپیش 11 روز
  • I know you're starving for content unable to make build recommendation videos, but it's wildly irresponsible to recommend knockoff apu's from aliexpress. Between this and your video snarking your audience for being frustrated at the shortages, my opinion of you has really soured.

    nick clarknick clarkپیش 11 روز
  • Nice video Paul. Would you consider building some of these and showcase their performance ? We'd at least show the kids interested in buying a 3080 to play Fortnite and Minecraft that there might be options out there.

    João Diogo FonsecaJoão Diogo Fonsecaپیش 11 روز
    • Not surprised, even adults want 3090 for "better" quality video conference.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
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    Gene KimGene Kimپیش 11 روز
  • I really like the idea of integrated graphics gaming benchmarks. I mean, what else can someone do if they're desperate? It's an interesting experiment at least

    Chad MasarwehChad Masarwehپیش 11 روز
  • I hate that the 4700G isnt something I can go out and buy right now

    Kyle SKyle Sپیش 12 روز
  • Hi Paul, I'm interested in an 8 core/16 thread chip. Looking at the 10700K as my best value option right now (iGPU is a bonus) but really considering waiting until next gen CPUs due to Intel's TDP numbers, AMD's current bad value, and new sockets for both brands being imminent. What would you recommend?

    MartinMartinپیش 12 روز
    • @Mr Anderson No worries, I should've worded it better.

      MartinMartinپیش 11 روز
    • @Martin Sorry if I mistook your meaning, as I thought "not interested in anything less than..." _means_ equal or more. My point exactly on ddr5, let it mature and stabilize, both price and performance wise.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
    • @Mr Anderson I didn't mean to imply I was interested in anything _more_ than an 8 core CPU, my bad. I'm trying to build something upper-mid tier with great value per dollar. I'm not spending $600 AUD on an i9 that will last me 2-3 years. From that advice, sounds like I should wait for better CPU offerings. Also DDR5 RAM will probably not be worth buying when it first releases; it will be very expensive, and may not be very stable/efficient. I'm not even considering it for this build, it will have to wait until my next build, by which time it will hopefully be a lot better and less expensive.

      MartinMartinپیش 11 روز
    • For next gen, most likely you will be paired with ddr5 and pcie4.0, not that it would be a bad thing, but I personally like to wait a year or two after that gen for the said technology to mature and become stable. I suggest you go in for i9 10th gen, a bit more than i7 but with 10 cores and with proper OC, should last you till 13th or 14th gen with stable ddr5 etc.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
  • Thank you! Finally APU content. The GPU is dead. It killed itself. I love my 4750G (video on my channel).

    Paul RouxPaul Rouxپیش 12 روز
  • 16:10 doesn't the Sytthe cooler also come with a screwdriver too? lol

    FRAG aLOTFRAG aLOTپیش 12 روز
  • AliExperess is okay.. but the shipping can take up to a month.

    FRAG aLOTFRAG aLOTپیش 12 روز
  • As of now, the Intel M.2 NVMe slots are NOT all 4th gen. Only one of the two or three M.2 slots support gen 4 PCIe. That is a deal breaker for some folks. Wondering how much of a performance gain there is with the Intel graphics on the 11th gen 750 vs. 10th gen 730 ??

    Garth ClarkGarth Clarkپیش 12 روز
  • Dude amazing video thanks!

    victor mochivictor mochiپیش 12 روز
  • Why bump the extra 100w on the PSU between the 2 AMD Options, when the TDP of the CPUs are identical?

    Fishbait075Fishbait075پیش 12 روز
  • Hey Paul 11600k graphics vs msi 1650 ddr6? I can't upgrade my graphics card right now but would I get an upgrade out of updating my CPU and using an integrated Graphics or where is that breaking point where it's better performance to just buy a CPU with integrated graphics

    Spencer S. YoungSpencer S. Youngپیش 12 روز
  • Looking for someone who has about €600, and needs to run World of Warcraft Shadowlands, and since GPU's are a problem i think a nice CPU with intergated GPU would be a good idea, since i was thinking about an AMD 3200G or perhaps even a 4650G would be a good idea, WoW Shadowlands shouldn't be a problem with that right ?

    Gabi KooningsGabi Kooningsپیش 12 روز
    • If you don't care too much about eye candy and texture quality, why not?

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
  • I finished my first PC last week because of your monthly PC build videos so please don't stop doing them thats how i got introduced into the hobby

    Spencer S. YoungSpencer S. Youngپیش 12 روز
    • Awesome. Hope you made a video about it. I put my builds up 🆙 for fun 🤩 on IRworld

      ClayDogClayDogپیش 11 روز
  • Paul ignorance is bliss so if you continue your videos like nothing ever happened then the hope is it will go back to normal........ like thats ever going to happen. I do appreciate your monthly PC build videos

    Spencer S. YoungSpencer S. Youngپیش 12 روز
  • Me watching this video on my Athlon 3000G pc: 👁👄👁

    PekokopikoPekokopikoپیش 12 روز
  • Can't wait to see how the AMD 4000 chip works out for you!

    Tyler M.Tyler M.پیش 12 روز
  • The crucial 3600 speed ram is very fast with ryzen(i have a 5600x), I definitely recommend it.

    Joe GioiaJoe Gioiaپیش 12 روز
  • just looked on newegg for amd gpu pricing - even the retailers are SCALPING ? pfff

    James FoxJames Foxپیش 12 روز
  • Don't forget the R5 3400G

    Tyler TransitTyler Transitپیش 12 روز
  • Nice video, but Ryzen 3200G doesn't have 8 threads, only 4. 3400G is the one, that has 4 cores and 8 threads.

    WildApple / OP PlaysWildApple / OP Playsپیش 12 روز
  • Paul I think you are better off using a cooler for the 11400 even if you are not overclocking it, it will go way past 90C even on gaming on the standard cooler if you leave the mobo power limits on auto (it goes up to like 140-150w of power consumption on auto)

    Nuba RevoredoNuba Revoredoپیش 12 روز
  • 21 hours later - youtube is slowing down - or is that the market , hmmm

    James FoxJames Foxپیش 12 روز
  • gpus are never going to be for sale for the normal consumer. i literally just give up.

    AlpacaAlpacaپیش 12 روز
  • Can you do a video of benchmarks of the integrated graphics on CPUs? Compared to each other or low end GPUs?

    MalubandMalubandپیش 12 روز
  • It appears that APUs/iCPUs are going to be that only way to go for us cash-strapped would-be computer builders for the foreseeable future. Many thanks for covering this segment.

    Mark JordanMark Jordanپیش 12 روز
  • My biggest issue with this build is the PSU. The s12III is a pretty bad psu given its ripple issues and overall reliability. In the build notes it says it uses the s12II which is a good psu however the amazon page shows the s12III which has been widely considered to be a pretty significant downgrade on a lot of the internal components. I'd really recommend going for something like a corsair cxm instead because they're generally the same price but far better in regards to its performance and overall safety to your other components.

    purplegill10purplegill10پیش 12 روز
  • So I didn't know this was a thing. First build all acquired except GPU. Do I need to take some special steps to run graphics with my i7-10700K until I can land a GPU? MSI MPG gaming wifi mobo.

    Colin EngebretsenColin Engebretsenپیش 12 روز
    • i7 igpu is decent, just lower the settings and game on till you get your dgpu.

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
  • great idea for a vid

    Teh 0wnz0rTeh 0wnz0rپیش 12 روز
  • If you can find a reviewer then steal a GPU from them, they have plenty. (half joking)

    Gary HoffmannGary Hoffmannپیش 12 روز
  • "Stock has been sort of variable and difficult to predict"....Biggest understatement of 2021. Thank you miners....

    James BrockJames Brockپیش 12 روز
  • like it

    TrainingFitnes ProgressTrainingFitnes Progressپیش 12 روز
  • Junk PSU. Does not deserve the Seasonic name on it. Do the research.

    James BrockJames Brockپیش 12 روز
    • So you agree w/me Mr Anderson?

      James BrockJames Brockپیش 11 روز
    • @James Brock People are often misled by 80+ platinum gold etc. Sigh...

      Mr AndersonMr Andersonپیش 11 روز
    • @Galactic Gold disagree that 80+ in itself means it's not junk. Do the research like I suggest...

      James BrockJames Brockپیش 12 روز
    • As long as it has an 80+ certification, its not a junk psu

      Galactic GoldGalactic Goldپیش 12 روز
  • Add an rx 580 for about 200.00

    John HendersonJohn Hendersonپیش 12 روز
  • what time to be alive... less than 10 years ago my build was about $800-$850 and it had i5 3570k and gtx 660Ti, and i was able to play the latest AAA games in 1080p60 at high settings (some specific titles at mid settings). and now for the same money all you can do is play e-sport titles. anything more demanding you have to play at 720p30 low

    SunchoSunchoپیش 12 روز
  • How about a video reusing old GPUs. Like, my PC has a MSI R9 290 4Gb Twin Frozer "Gaming Edition" (ohh, ahh mockingly; my PC legitimately has this GPU so I'm allowed to make fun). That said upgrading from my FX-6300 is a higher priority. Could I run a APU in crossfire with the old MSI GPU?

    The Opinion of MattThe Opinion of Mattپیش 12 روز
  • 650W power supply is enough for a nonOC 3080. my Thermaltake 650W bronze handles an 10700k with a RTX 3080 , 2x8GB Ram and 7 rgb Fans, no problems whatsoever.

    Sanjin BiskupSanjin Biskupپیش 12 روز
  • Benchmarks or didn't happen.

    iamHoshiiamHoshiپیش 12 روز
  • Wen don't need a GPU! Hey, look at this nice case that has enough space for big and powerful GPUs! :-D

    FalconX88FalconX88پیش 12 روز
  • Don't worry none of these builds need a gpu........ excellent!! It's never been so perfect

    Ziggy HullZiggy Hullپیش 12 روز
  • Msi, no thanks, they will force install a windows process. I don't know about the other manufacturers.

    MonteiroMonteiroپیش 12 روز
  • The issue with Intel CPUs is that as long as you're missing a dedicated GPU, your PC will be worth as much as a PC with a Ryzen CPU in it, from a gaming perspective. The only upside is that aside from gaming, your Intel PC can still do _something,_ like browsing the web. Ryzen PC will be a brick until you find any dGPU. Ryzen APUs are actually pretty decent, being capable of running almost anything that's from the PS4 generation and back. You might have to settle with console resolutions and framerates, but that's still loads better than no gaming at all. Even PS3 and WiiU emulation is very doable on the Zen+ and above APUs, so you won't be short of games to play while your dGPU arrives.

    Hasni Hossain SamiHasni Hossain Samiپیش 12 روز
  • For the best upgrade path always give priority to the motherboard and power supply.

    please leaveplease leaveپیش 12 روز
  • The thermaltake tower 100 we did the coolermaster elite 130 but better

    Connor WinterConnor Winterپیش 12 روز
  • Inc cpu shortage with build in gpu

    MelodiasMelodiasپیش 12 روز
  • Depending on a system that uses an iGPU, what a time to be living in.

    please leaveplease leaveپیش 12 روز
  • I have 3400g but I use an MSI B450-A Pro max. It is a cheaper motherboard, but it has usb flashback and solid vrm

    Dusan SpasicDusan Spasicپیش 12 روز
  • Can both AMD builds game at 1080 60fps?

    24JesterKings24JesterKingsپیش 12 روز
  • hey paul just wanted to point out that the 3200g is 4c/4t

    Pedro BarbosaPedro Barbosaپیش 12 روز
  • just get any $100 work station gpu and call it a day

    moonmoonbirdcptmoonmoonbirdcptپیش 12 روز
  • Can I play on amd 5 3600 without a graphics card?cause im building a pc and I'm gonna buy the gpu for the last

    dickus suckusdickus suckusپیش 12 روز
  • Mention Beijing Biden at check out from Ali Express and get an additional fee billed to the American tax payer

    Gern BlanstonGern Blanstonپیش 12 روز
  • Do we honestly believe PC gaming can continue with GPU prices continuly climbing?

    Michael OlsenMichael Olsenپیش 12 روز
  • if you ask paul if he buy a pc like this he will say a big fuck NO for the rest of us is hell yea !!!!!!! something is not str8 here

    neofitos mihailneofitos mihailپیش 12 روز
  • So Paul..the intel K series has graphics built in? ie the 11600K

    S GomezS Gomezپیش 12 روز
  • Thank you!

    Robert FoxRobert Foxپیش 12 روز
  • Thanks but you made a mistake in the first build. The 3200g is four cores and four threads not four cores and eight threads.

    Rob GRob Gپیش 12 روز
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